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Nicky at 12:58, 21 July 2025

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‎gul - imperfect

Nicky at 12:48, 21 July 2025

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==bos - past habitual==
another: outlaws to the priest, robbing him

*A vethe preys (?peys?) bys deth brus | ny thue henna in trogel | ty a gel moy an pyth us | adro dyso dyogel A vedha prys bys dydh breus, | ny dheu henna yn trogel. | Ty a gell moy, an pyth eus | a-dro dhiso diogel. | Should there be time until doomsday, | That will not come in the body. | Thou shalt lose more, the wealth that is | Around thee surely. (BM1925-8)

may fedh e'?

A vedh ow prays(ya)?

*omma eve ytho poyntyes | cheif warden war paradice | ha der pegh a coveytes | oll y joye ythew kellys | may fetha paynes ragtha Omma ev yth o 'poyntys | chyf warden war baradhis, | ha der begh ha kovaytys | oll y joy yth yw kellys, | may fedha paynys ragdho. Here he was appointed | Chief-warden over Paradise, | And through (the) sin of covetousness | All his joy is lost, | So that there should be pains for it. (CW998-1002)

bydh?
*ny won awose merwel | a vetha peyn thum ena Ny wonn, awosa merwel, | a vedha payn dhe'm ena. I know not, after dying, Whether there will be pain to my soul. (BM1635-7) constantine, heavy soul to kill the children

Modal use - may be, might be, might have been?

when we were out robbing. Mistake for conditional?
*warnen y tuth bum a tan | ha luehes in pur certan | in hevelep leskis glan | ny a '''vethe''' pur dyson warnan y teuth boemm a dan | ha lughes yn pur sertan. | Yn hevelep leskys glan | ni a '''vedha''' pur dhison. On us came a blow of fire | And lightning in very certain. | Apparently clean burnt | We were right surely (BM2148-51) would have been?

Modal use - might have been?

==gul - imperfect==
From SGMC p56

*Mar '''qurean''' tastya an frut na, avell Dew ny a vea (CW781) = If we tasted (or, were to taste) that fruit, we would be like God

Is this a contraction of kwrellen? Or is it using the imperfect in a modal way - were we to taste, should we taste, etc

*..mor crown gy pedery pan dall gu gwary ha madra ta pandrigg seera ha damah, na rehans moaz dan cooz do cuntle gu booz (J) = if they consider what their games are worth and mark well what father and mother have done, they would not have gone to the wood to gather their food

Is this a contraction of wrellens? Or is it using the imperfect in a modal way - they might not have, may not have, etc

*..an gwethan a reega vee laule theeze a na '''wresta''' debre (R) = the tree that I told thee that thou shouldst not eat

imperfect wres? present wres? contracted conditional wresses?

==gul - conditional==
From SGMC p55

*Mar '''kressa''' an dean deskez fear na gwellaz hemma (NB) = If that wise, learned man saw this (or were to see this or should see this)

Modal use - 'if he should see this' rather than just 'if he saw this'

*..descunta leh d'''ressa''' lever an Have an Arlothes Kernow bose kevez en dula a flehaz (NB) = to mind less that the book of The Duchess of Cornwall's Summer Holiday should be found in my children's hands

Modal use - 'that it should be' rather than 'that it be'

*Angye ve gwarnez ne '''resa''' angye doaz ogaz tha Herod (R) = They were warned that they should not come nigh unto Herod

Modal use - 'that they should not' rather than 'that they not'

*..a ressa an dzhyi sypposia.. (L/NB) = and that they would act falsely

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 *ran in kerth re ruk feya | ran ny won pythens gyllys | maythovy ameys oma | ellas mar '''pethen''' dampnys <br> Rann yn kerdh re wrug fia, | rann ny wonn pyth ens gyllys, | mayth ov vy amayys omma. | Ellas, mar pedhyn dampnys! <br> Some away did flee, | Some I know not where they are gone. | So that I am without here. | Alas, if we will be damned! (BM2156-60)
 ==gul - imperfect==
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 *..a '''ressa''' an dzhyi sypposia.. (L/NB) = and that they would act falsely

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 another: outlaws to the priest, robbing him
-*A vethe preys (?peys?) bys deth brus | ny thue henna in trogel | ty a gel moy an pyth us | adro dyso dyogel <br>A vedha prys bys dydh breus, | ny dheu henna yn trogel. | Ty a gell moy, an pyth eus | a-dro dhiso diogel. <br> | Should there be time until doomsday, | That will not come in the body. | Thou shalt lose more, the wealth that is | Around thee surely. (BM1925-8)
+*A '''vethe''' preys (?peys?) bys deth brus | ny thue henna in trogel | ty a gel moy an pyth us | adro dyso dyogel <br>A vedha prys bys dydh breus, | ny dheu henna yn trogel. | Ty a gell moy, an pyth eus | a-dro dhiso diogel. <br> | Should there be time until doomsday, | That will not come in the body. | Thou shalt lose more, the wealth that is | Around thee surely. (BM1925-8)
 may fedh e'?
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 A vedh ow prays(ya)?
+*omma eve ytho poyntyes | cheif warden war paradice | ha der pegh a coveytes | oll y joye ythew kellys | may '''fetha''' paynes ragtha <br>Omma ev yth o 'poyntys | chyf warden war baradhis, | ha der begh ha kovaytys | oll y joy yth yw kellys, | may fedha paynys ragdho.<br> Here he was appointed | Chief-warden over Paradise, | And through (the) sin of covetousness | All his joy is lost, | So that there should be pains for it. (CW998-1002)
 bydh?
-*ny won awose merwel | a vetha peyn thum ena <br> Ny wonn, awosa merwel, | a vedha payn dhe'm ena. <br> I know not, after dying, Whether there will be pain to my soul. (BM1635-7) constantine, heavy soul to kill the children
+*ny won awose merwel | a '''vetha''' peyn thum ena <br> Ny wonn, awosa merwel, | a vedha payn dhe'm ena. <br> I know not, after dying, Whether there will be pain to my soul. (BM1635-7) constantine, heavy soul to kill the children
 Modal use - may be, might be, might have been?
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 Modal use - might have been?
 ==gul - imperfect==
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 Modal use - 'that they should not' rather than 'that they not'
-*..a ressa an dzhyi sypposia.. (L/NB) = and that they would act falsely
+*..a '''ressa''' an dzhyi sypposia.. (L/NB) = and that they would act falsely

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 Is this a contraction of kwrellen? Or is it using the imperfect in a modal way - were we to taste, should we taste, etc
-*..mor crown gy pedery pan dall gu gwary ha madra ta pandrigg seera ha damah, na rehans moaz dan cooz do cuntle gu booz (J) = if they consider what their games are worth and mark well what father and mother have done, they would not have gone to the wood to gather their food
+*..mor crown gy pedery pan dall gu gwary ha madra ta pandrigg seera ha damah, na '''rehans''' moaz dan cooz do cuntle gu booz (J) = if they consider what their games are worth and mark well what father and mother have done, they would not have gone to the wood to gather their food
 Is this a contraction of wrellens? Or is it using the imperfect in a modal way - they might not have, may not have, etc